[Recorded 6.21.20]
In this chat, we talk with our filmmaker friend Russell Goldman about TV reviews, intimidatingly good ideas, industrial musicals, the first film we worked on together (Alpacaland), our fathers, shrimp tails, Better Call Saul, Spike Lee joints, the history of Atlantis (the movie), Disney, The Last of Us Part II, Phoebe Bridgers's new album Punisher, mental health, his film No Comment, and the process of working together on his upcoming film I Make Good Sounds At Parties through the quarantine.